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Shooting Wenona is interesting. It's like pointing your camera at some kind of very intense bronze statue of a goddess. You just stand back and shoot, then she stops and looks at you "what do you want me to do?" and you realize that you just photographed her doing her stretching exercises.

This is my favorite lighting set-up - dual softboxes toed in close to the subject; you can see the positions of the lights from the shadows cast by her fingers.

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*asquick Jan 29, 2012

Absolutely amazing. The lines of her body remind me of architectural photography - some of Santiago Calatrava's work to be specific

Strong and graceful. Congrats on a beautiful shot to you both.

`mjranum Jan 30, 2012

Yeah. I am endlessly fascinated by the relationship between the soft beautiful bits and the skeleton they hang on. It's neat as hell.

*caligis Apr 6, 2010 Hobbyist Digital Artist

I love the shadows bringing out the muscle groups, the perfect mix of power and grace!

=Leichenengel Jan 13, 2010 Hobbyist General Artist

Ok THIS one is skinny :3 still a nice pose I guess such stuff is only possible with skinny models - unfortunately ^^

`mjranum Jan 13, 2010

I think it's borderline (or even across the line) rude to call someone "chubby" or "skinny" or "bignose" or whatever, unless they specifically invite comments on that topic. I'm sure you realize that my models' weight is their business, not mine, and most certainly not yours.

=Leichenengel Jan 14, 2010 Hobbyist General Artist

I think it is less rude to call someone chubby than fat ^^. Since I'm chubby/fat myself I can allow my self to say that. The weight of a model might not be my or your business but making them models by "booking" them actually increases the number of people who think girls/women with those shapes are the perfect models and anyone who has more on their ribs is just ugly and fat and nobody would want them for pictures like your. Sure yes I'm maybe exaggerating. It's not that I want to prohibit photos of models like her - it's just that I'm not a fan of pictures showing to much of that what actually should be hidden from the skin like the bones. I wasn't saying that she is anorectic. I don't arrogate to impute she suffers from an eating-disorder for I know that there are enough women out there eating and eating just like me and you but can't gain a pound of fat. If one wants to use technical terms on her shapes so bad he could say she was "cachectic" because it's just the medical term for the word "skinny" and it wouldn't impute her to have a kind of disease. Either "skinny" or "chubby" are actually just normal words that aren't even meant to be rude. But it surely depends on the person who uses them. When I use them than I don't imply to be rude. If somebody feels insulted by them when I use them I'm kinda sorry though it is my personal opinion. I just think there should be more pics like yours from women who aren't that lank to show off, that everybody can be a model for something even when they don't have those perfect lank shapes - that would boost the self-esteem of mayn people men and women...

`mjranum Jan 14, 2010

It seems to me to be pretty simple: either we worry about other people's self-esteem, or we don't. If we're to worry about other people's self-esteem, since it's such a complex problem, then there's nothing one can safely say; not even something that might be considered generally positive. Imagine a scenario in which I tell someone "you are beautiful!" and they run off crying "you don't respect me for my intelligence, boo hoo!"

So, either everyone should feel free to call someone "skinny" "chubby" or even "fat slob" or, maybe, it's a good idea not to make comments at all. I'm seriously puzzled by this whole issue and sometimes I lean toward just thinking "to hell with everyone's feelings" In the meantime I'm very cautious about what I say about anyone.

I photograph "perfect" shapes because that's what I like to photograph. In fact, I feel I'd be insulting to someone who I shot just because I thought they were less than perfect. I mean, if I shot someone thinking "I'm going to go fill my quota of fat slobs today" that would be pretty nasty, too, wouldn't it? But the truth is that I don't think that way - I see someone and they're either someone I want to shoot, or they aren't. I've shot some very thin people like Kaitlin, and some people who are moderately overweight such as myself.

Ultimately, it's a no-win situation, and it makes me reluctant to play the game at all.

I've written more extensively about this topic, here:
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I don't pretend to know what is the right thing to do, but it explains my thoughts a bit.

=Leichenengel Jan 15, 2010 Hobbyist General Artist

Yeah sure you are kinda right - it's actually kinda a "problem" of our todays society. I actually know that photographers take shots of people theya want to shoot (at least when they don't intend to earn money with it like application photos and stuff) but yeah well - it's still kinda depressing. I don't want to hold you back from doing what you want and I don't call every girl you shoot skinny ^^ it's just that on this pic it's rather disturbing to see all those ribs sticking out. My personal eye does not like that because it makes me kinda feel sorry for them though the motive might be a great idea. I actually know the whole discussion about those topics is a lost cause. I just wished there were more photgraphers thinking that even women/men with more flesh on their ribs (so not to call them chubby) were beautiful

And yeah sure there might be people on this world who would run away if somebody calls them beautiful but I kinda think that would be pretty funny. Actually it's kinda a nice compliment to hear that one is beautiful - what should one say when not knowing the person? You just can't say "I think you are so smart AND beautiful" if you actually don't know anything about this person but only the appearance... it's just like that. It would be kinda hysteric to complain about someone who likes yout beauty when not knowing more about you...

!Naajaa Sep 28, 2009

Unique pose. You can certainly tell she's muscular, as half of the ribs you see in this shot have muscle in between them.

`mjranum Sep 28, 2009

She's in great condition.

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