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On GhostsI've been meaning to write about epistemology and science for quite a while....
The problem is that there really isn't a single simple place to dig in and get started. Why not? Because all of what we'd call "human knowledge" is connected; if you intend to explain one piece completely you'd eventually wind up trying to explain it all. That's why the 6-year-old child's tactic of asking "why?" is so successful and annoying.
kid: "why is the sky blue?"
mjr: "because of diffraction in the atmosphere."
kid: "why?"
mjr: "well it's got to do with how light's frequency changes when you bend its path."
kid: "why?"
mjr option 1: "don't ask me, go dig up Richard Feynman."
or
mjr option 2: "it's time for you to go to bed."
But there's a really wonderful thing about scientific knowledge and its connectedness: it doesn't contradict itself. Not anywhere. Or, rather, not for very long; contradictions mean something is wrong with the theor

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Palm Sunday, 2011, Avignon, France: 4 men in sunglasses with hammers threaten and restrain guards at an art museum displaying Andres Serrano's work "Immersion (piss christ)" smashing the protective lucite around the art-work, they slashed the photograph with a screwdriver and damaged it. It's safe to say that the controversy surrounding Serrano's photo has eclipsed his career; personally I feel his morgue photographs are technically superior - but when religious zealotry encourages attacks on free expression, it must be resisted. The faithful, as well as the atheist, must oppose such attacks on the simple ground that if you implicitly condone attacks against someone else, you cannot lay claim to any support if someone attacks you in the same manner. Ultimately, an attack such as the one on Serrano's photograph is as justifiable as the defacement of a mosque, or a church, or a synagogue. A war of words and ideas is one thing, but when you start getting physical about it, you've crossed the line and become an oppressor, aligned with the jackbooted thug and the uncontrolled mob. Anyone who has ever enjoyed the ability to do something unpopular, in safety, should recognize that the 4 men in France were striking out not merely at a photograph, but at all of our ability to speak our minds safely.

This is my artistic response to those 4 individuals: For every piece of art you destroy, I'll make a replacement. I'm not in Serrano's league - far fewer people will see my response here than have seen Serrano's "piss christ" but I am just one photographer. What if dozens or hundreds (dare I hope thousands?) of artists take up this idea and do their own commentary in kind? By damaging one photograph, I hope these fools in France will spur the creation of more, and more of exactly what it is they are trying to silence.

Technical details: this took 17 boxes of jello and weighed quite a lot when it was ready to de-mold. I had to blowtorch the bottom of the bowl to make it come loose, then somehow flip a 16-lb mass of jello onto the platter without ruining it. Don't forget to use a dishwasher-safe savior!

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~Simidae Jun 6, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

Jello Jebus!

~Reiver01US Apr 14, 2012 Hobbyist Artist

Careful. Bill Donahue is going to go totally apeshit over this one.

`mjranum Apr 15, 2012

That would be awesome. I keep dreaming I'll cause a coronary.

~veeseegoth Mar 5, 2012

Pissing whoever even symbolic no matter Jesus Christ or someone else is as extreamally stupid as I could recon the 4 were maybe the friends of Mr. Serrano to make just publicity. Don't let be manipulated, mate...
I m an atheist but /and therefore/ I think there is some essential level of discussion or fight with respecting of rules and opponent's dignity BY ALL MEANINGS. Bare offending just only to abuse and defame someone is pitiful cheaply crap in our post christian culture now.
Let Mr Serrano to happen his work against the Mohhamad if he'd like to be taken as courageous and daring as he intends to appear.. He would be long ago decapitated and stoned in the centre of London , Paris or Berlin no matter with how carefully security surrounded...
And no one is going to commit it to Mr Serrano with name of Jesus Christ in the mouth and thats the all , big difference which we have to appreciate and not just piss for we piss on our own heads that way in fact....
Greetings

~veeseegoth Nov 22, 2012

No, everybody has to take responsibility for his activities. Artist too for they aren't holly cows.

`mjranum Mar 5, 2012

Let Mr Serrano to happen his work against the Mohhamad if he'd like to be taken as courageous and daring as he intends to appear..

So you're saying that you think artists should be subjected to threat of personal violence for making an art-work? What kind of sick monster are you?

~veeseegoth Mar 5, 2012

you distort the sense of my post ...i hope not purposal for I had to conclude youre an insolent jerk...i don' want to.... however youre not fair...don/t do it please

besides if an artists or whoever doesn't take in account the possible reactions against his action that means he's just an idiot considering or imaging himself as being holly cow which could piss for instance onto the picture of your mother or another of your beloved persons and you offcourse had find verrrrrrrrrry fancy to order a round for him in the pub and slap his arm.

~Shamaroth Nov 21, 2012 Student General Artist

Sorry for bumping this, I just can't let this be, I found your argument bizzarely stupid and I want to state it publicly and let loose, it was such a moronic argument that I couldn't hold it in (it's like when you're suddenly shitting yourself).
I agree with this great artist, and I think you should recapacitate, furthermore I think you don't mix guts with artistry, if an artist blasphemes he could do it for whatever reason, but I assure you that it takes an idiot to mistake him for a suicidal stunt performer, the likeliness of an artist trying to get killed by art is near nothing.

~veeseegoth Nov 22, 2012

To me it he an mediocre cheap "artist". An idiot too.

Artist ain't an holly cow.

~Shamaroth Nov 23, 2012 Student General Artist

And I assume you are cross-eyed, his art is quite good, he knows his trade he does good light settings and captures well his pictures, maybe his art motives don't please you, but that doesn't make him mediocre, cheap or an idiot.

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