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Why aren't there more one-eyed christian photographers?

This is a serious question, even though at first it seems ridiculous. According to christians, jesus was or spoke on behalf of a supreme, all-powerful, all-knowing, being - a supreme being that definitely has some strong ideas about appropriate or inappropriate behavior. And, in one of jesus' sermons, he supposedly said:

(Matthew 5:28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
(Matthew 5:29) And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


That sounds pretty clear to me. It sounds to me like if you're:
a) a photographer
b) christian
c) married
and you get a little bit sweaty or maybe you think "whoh. look at her butt!" while you're gazing through the viewfinder - the supreme all-powerful creator of the universe wants you to rip your eyeball out. It's that simple. That little directive, supposedly the words of the all-powerful, is pretty clear and unambiguous. So what's going on? Where are all the one-eyed christian photographers? For that matter, where are all the one-eyed christians who watch late-night cable TV?

The answer seems simple, to me. They believe it's bullsh*t, just like I do, only they don't have the guts to put their eyeball in play. See, because if I actually believed a bunch of ridiculousness like christians claim to, I'd actually do it. I mean, what kind of retard would let a little thing like some pain and your own eyeball get in the way of eternal salvation? Not me!

I got onto this track when I was trying to learn a bit about christian doctrine from some nutters I met who really believe the whole thing and were enlightening me as to why christianity is down on "pornography." I asked them where that came from and they graciously pointed me at those sentences from the sermon on the mount.
"That's it!?" I cried.
"Yep. That's it. Blessed are the words of the lord." they replied.

What a bunch of nonsense!!


Models: The artist (with eyeball) and Stacy. Make-up by Stacy.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner May 14, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it
out and throw it away from you. For it is more
profitable for you that one of your members should
perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna.

If a body part is infected you must remove it if you want to live right? Look at Bob Marley, he had a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes and he died because he didn't have an operation to remove it.

So you are retarded to believe the phrase word by word and not in a different way :P
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
the rules are always for others, they like to forgive themselves more than others, thats why witchburning was so popular ;)
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mjranum Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2012
Yep!
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)
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timsumma Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011
There is a book that will help you sifer the lovely words of the Crist, it is titled "Strange Fruit". What he said is vary well the truth, it is the context that is not correct. Big hint, the man was talking about fly agarei, or in layman terms, red toped magic mushrooms.

It goes along way to explain the secret teachings of Christ. You don't get it, his teachings were never intended for the common or lay people. LOL!!!

Now go and have you some real fun! He would and did!
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mjranum Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
I doubt very much that the bible was inspired by drugs. I've done plenty of various drugs and none of them have made me as stupid as the nonsense in the bible.
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timsumma Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Ok, to each his own. By the way, that first testament, it is Hebrew, as in the Talamude (sp). So who knows?

Timmers.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
No, depending on what you're referring to, it's Ahramaic. Or Greek translations of Ahramaic.
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timsumma Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Sorry, I'm lost. I have no idea what this message is related to.

Tim.
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BrotherAtticus Featured By Owner May 22, 2011
So, either many Christians are disobedient ("hypocrites" is the improper term here, since Christians do not demand that others literally pluck their own eyes out), or the Bible is taken too literally by its critics. In both cases, this doesn't affect the credibility of the religion itself. It's a shame that in a "free-thinking" culture, Christianity has to endure so much hostility despite the inflexibility of human nature. It seems Huxley wasn't exactly being paranoid when he wrote about that "brave new world"...
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mjranum Featured By Owner May 23, 2011
In both cases, this doesn't affect the credibility of the religion itself.

No; it's the inconsistencies in the religion itself that do that.

It's a shame that in a "free-thinking" culture, Christianity has to endure so much hostility despite the inflexibility of human nature.

It's a shame that in a reality-based world, magical thinking expects to be treated as anything more than a pack of lies.
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BrotherAtticus Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2011
"Apologetics: the discipline of defending a position (usually religious) through the systematic use of reason" (Wiki.).
There are indeed non-schizophrenic inklings behind a belief in the possibility of a divine being. C.S. Lewis merely scratched the surface. As much as I like to have discussions about religion, I like them to be serious. So please stash the Bill Maher talking points, because the just-compare-religion-to-magic punchline--I mean, defense--simply doesn't stand on its own two feet anymore. It's time to move on. Don't be the reason I put "free-thinking" in quotes and roll my eyes whenever I hear it.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2011
Oh dear me! You appear to think you can systematically use reason to defend your faith? This ought to be fun... :)

As far as the "dismissio ad Maher" - puhleeze - he's an idiot antivaxer and a comedian, not a philosopher. He's funny (sometimes) I'll admit but I like to think some of us can do better.

The comparison of religion to silly magical beliefs is not a "punchline" it's an observation. In fact, if you think you can argue that religion should be taken more seriously than other silliness, the burden of proof is yours and not mine. Until you can do better than spout a dictionary definition, I'd say "Apologetics: see also 'bullshit'"
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Groenew Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Student
You're great:D
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Murder999 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011
I am terribly amused (ROFL)
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KIDgraFX Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2010
Great idea! Good Work! This religion thing is kind of ... bullshit like you said! :P
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cfpoet Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2010
"They believe it's bullsh*t, just like I do"; You just don't know/understand the differnce between lust/desire and appreciation. Cheers.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2010
I bet you couldn't give a definition of that difference that would stand up to skeptical scrutiny. I.e.: I suspect you don't know the difference, either.
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cfpoet Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2010
Working on it....
Won't attack like others, luv ya bro'
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TwistedPhae Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
I do belive I'll keep both my eyes in my head and enjoy the view I have from both of them. If whatever higher being that may or may not be out there decides I get to spend an eternity in some place called hell, so be it. At least I'll have some great memories to take with me!
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mjranum Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010
That's a sensible attitude. And, besides, you're most likely to discover that there's no afterlife at all, in which case the fun you had while alive was worth it.
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TidusMGAA Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010
PLEASE FORGIVE US!!!
My friend, I enjoyed your work until I came across this piece. You see, I am a follower of the Christ who lived and died for our sins and who also has risen to meet with us once again in LOVE. So I knew what this piece was referring to before I read a single word of description. It really hurt. So, to the last bit of my energy I stretch out to you in hopes that maybe someone will be touched and listen. As I am tired of calling out in pain to statues who will never hear and who will never move. I refuse to argue, for I am not hear to win an argument, instead, I am here as your friend to serve you. I will happily answer any questions you may have. I stretch out to you So that when we arrive in Heaven before the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit and I watch as you are asked why you chose your path, why you did not listen to HIS love calling out to you, you will not be able to say, "because I was not shown love nor was I shown the path." I am one who once feared, as most Christians do, the human body and therefor stayed away from it. I did this until one day, Our LORD put me in a situation where I was forced to sit and study the human body inside of an art class. I have done so for 2 years now. I am 21 years of age and I remain a virgin even though I have the most beautiful girl in the world who has faithfully remained at my side for 2 years now. This is not due to my strength but to the mercy of the FATHER whom I pleaded with to help me and to never let me fall again to that temptation.(I was once, as a child, introduced to porn. It was a tough battle, but thanks to God's TRUE LOVE, I was freed from the addiction that the enemy held me under.) My Friend, I am in no way perfect. I am probably one of the most sinful people I know, but in this area, I have had success. So the FATHER has honored me that I may look on HIS creation and see it as HE sees it.(Amazing, beautiful, art.) Now, I am able to discern between erotic and explicit, subtle and pornographic. So I plead with you, on behalf of all Christians, who in their ignorance, has offended you, I ask you to forgive us. We are all young and new to one thing or another. When we first begin serving the LORD, we do not know how to control the ambition we have to serve, not only the LORD, but you, our friends who, in our eyes, are in the prison of the enemy. We are unable to sit back and watch the enemy steal you when we know there is something so much better.... So we try to go in with full force to save you, and to our surprise, we push you further away, but please, it IS out of care and LOVE for you my friend. In this short 21 years of living, I have seen more Christians push away more potential Christian than any other means. This angers and saddens me as all I can do is sit back and pray because even though I too am a Christian, heh, they will not listen to me either or God who is telling them to stop attacking you. So please, I plead with you, look at us as the fault, not the LORD. HE does not want Christians to do half of the things they do and one day we will have to answer for all of the lives we as Christians have pushed away. In fact, I dare say that Christians interpret the Bible more incorrectly than most other parties or at least misuse it as they tend to forget a little passage that says, "do not use the BIBLE as a whipping stool." I find myself correcting more Christians than I do friends who have not yet come to the LORD. You, my friend, make beautiful art, but only because the LORD loves you so much that HE gave you and eye to understand not even a fraction of the beauty that HE is through the human body. You are not the only one, however, {Artyandy, you are hilarious and it is awesome to see how much GOD loves you. GOD has a great sense of humor and I am not surprised if HE too is not entertained by HIS children joking with each other. And Mjranum, I truly would like to meet you, you have an eye for curiosity and that is straight from the FATHER, you would be fun to hang around.} In conclusion, I am not here to argue, I am only here to stand up and speak the TRUTH, serve, love, and have a lot of fuuuuuuuuuunnnn. You guys should try it one day. If you truly give the LORD a chance and find that you do not like HIM then you can finally close this ever beginning, never ending saga, and never look back. And though the world will remain arguing, at least you can spend more time taking pictures or enjoying art and life. Heh, and if anything, you can now say that you have a crazy, FATHER, JESUS, HOLY SPIRIT freak as a friend who you can receive comical relief from. Thanks again, I humbly ask anyone's forgiveness if I have offended and be blessed. -Your Friend/Ally
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010
So I knew what this piece was referring to before I read a single word of description. It really hurt.

Your beliefs are a matter of your choice. Nobody (certainly not I) makes you believe in them.
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TidusMGAA Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010
My friend you speak truth in it's very form, but sometimes words are not read with the correct form of their origin in which they were spoken... I do not mean to say that you offended me or harmed me in any way. If I am offended it is my sin, not yours my friend. I truly do understand you and I too am tired of the hypocrites. In saying that I knew what this was about before reading a single word of description, I was referring to the order of thought, perception, misguidance that has come from such a verse over a vast period of time. One out of millions that have been treated with the same dishonor, the same abusive intent. To use to point and blame as a whipping stool.... I truly have felt the pain of such a desire as to "pluck out" my eye, even both. Somewhere, however, it turned into the desire to place a knife to my neck and a barrel to my head... Have we not all been there, my friend? I admire you, I admire your thought that is placed so carefully into every sentence, but please, friend I challenge you to read my previous reply again. I challenge you to read it without the action of defending yourself or a desire to argue, for I am not your enemy. I enjoy talking with you. I believe you are quite a warrior and truly I say to you, one such as yourself truly has more faith than I. For anyone who has the faith to survive each day in this world without the belief, comfort, refuge, and salvation in my God surly has the faith to crumble mountains... I can only imagine how powerful you would be in the battle against the true enemy. So I ask you, where does it come from, your strength to go another day, to do what you do with your art, is it truly the art that keeps you going? Something so small, can it truly demand the attention of such a powerful spirit as yourself, as it appears to do? What drives you? What drives you to speak with me? A 21 year old kid that knows nothing past his own two feet? I am only one star in a galaxy, one boring minute in a universe of business and haste. Heh, no, truly you are admirable. I am no one, yet I can still see your importance... I wonder, what would you say if I told you that you were closer to entering the kingdom of my FATHER than most Christians I know?.... I will say, I am young, barely able to be called a young man. I have no purpose, yet I have now met you in all of this universe of haste and business. You have given, albeit a moment, your attention to me and therefor I have now been given the importance of a generation and generations to come. The importance of your life. To do anything other than share my FATHER with you would be absolutely pointless.... This is what keeps me going. That my FRIEND, my FATHER, my REDEEMER, would give to me such a task, such and important task, daily,... It is more than this one deserves. Speaking with you is more than I deserve.... Why do you give me that time?
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2010
I truly have felt the pain of such a desire as to "pluck out" my eye, even both. Somewhere, however, it turned into the desire to place a knife to my neck and a barrel to my head... Have we not all been there, my friend?

I have, too, but out of a sense of "why not?" rather than compulsion. I do accept the idea that nothing has any meaning, and that has sometimes made me think of finishing things, just because I can. But that's a whole different feeling from having the desire to end things in order to please some mysterious supreme being.

I'm not going to try to proselytize at you, or anything like that. For myself, I've found that accepting meaninglessness and purposelessness just means that I'm free to do what I want/can without needing to answer for anything above and beyond whether I am content to do so. I have rules I impose on myself, but they're just the rules I chose to impose (and I sometimes break them). In general, I'm able to live free of guilt or a sense that I need to be doing anything to please anyone else - whether it's my neighbor or a supreme being. I've always found it rather odd when the faithful (my cousin, who I care for very much, is a devout lutheran) say "how can one be happy being an atheist?" because, to me, I feel completely liberated. When I wake up in the morning, I take a deep breath and greet each day thinking "none of this matters. today I may die. so, what? I'd better enjoy it as best I can!"

I challenge you to read my previous reply again. I challenge you to read it without the action of defending yourself or a desire to argue, for I am not your enemy.

I did. And your sincerity is all that comes through to me. I appreciate that you mean well and think you're trying to help me (in accordance with your world view) but your impassioned religiousity is just white noise, to me. It, literally, makes no sense. I'm not saying that's a failure on your part to communicate - it's not your fault at all - but what you believe in simply sounds completely nonsensical to me.

You probably understand what I mean when I write that. Let me challenge you, in return, then! What I'd like you to do is read a little bit of this - you don't need to read much, just a couple paragraphs or pages.
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It's the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita; their holy book. I picked a chunk of it at random. If your experience reading that is similar to mine, you scratched your head, furrowed your brow, and thought "WTF?! this is batshit nonsense!" Now - imagine reading the q'uran, and the book of mormon. You'll have the same reaction. You are as much of an atheist as I am, when it comes to every religion but your own. All I do is disbelieve in one more god than you do. So you can probably understand how I feel.

So I ask you, where does it come from, your strength to go another day, to do what you do with your art, is it truly the art that keeps you going?

Anger, despair, and irony.

Why do you give me that time?

Because - while I can't justify it, or explain it - I believe in showing courtesy wherever possible. It would have been rude to meet your obvious sincerity by just blowing you off, and I don't like being rude. Except for where it's fun. :D And, while I doubt that I'd be able to seriously hurt your feelings, I didn't think you deserved having me jump up and down on you. You took the time and energy to write me, and I respond in kind.

:hug:
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TidusMGAA Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2010
"Now - imagine reading the q'uran, and the book of mormon. You'll have the same reaction. You are as much of an atheist as I am, when it comes to every religion but your own. All I do is disbelieve in one more god than you do. So you can probably understand how I feel."

Yes sir, I have read the q'uran(or atleast what was put into structured sentences.)and much of the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita and I completely understand how you can believe this after reading such passages, but it would be a lie to say that I completely do not believe in these other gods. While I know these gods to be false, I also know that my FATHER has placed HIS WORD on the hearts of men and so I can easily see where, over time, people can get things mixed up and combine certain teachings with other nonsense due to a heavy heart of GOD'S WORD and the attempt to please the will of man. Two ingredients that man will always try to cook together, but will never succeed. The q'uran, a mistake/tool of the enemy simply based off of a man's inability to read and write. The Hindu Bhagavad-Gita, a man in a separate part of the world, truly touched by the WORD of GOD and in the end, fell to the mistake of capitulation between two different versions of right and wrong.

There is too much to say and too little time. My friend
once again I beg your forgiveness, I was wrong about you. Though it pains me, I will not be able to assist you in such a farmiliar struggle of endurence filled with pain and antipathy. Yes you have more than earned your right to go in peace without the straint of another conversation. For this burden, I apologize. However, if I may before we part,...

"But that's a whole different feeling from having the desire to end things in order to please some mysterious supreme being."

It was not to please a mysterious supreme being...

I bid you adieu, my friend. Be well.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2010
I think you are closer to what you look for than I can argue with...

Have you ever seen the (very cheesy) movie "Circle of Iron" ??
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TidusMGAA Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2010
I have never heard of this movie, I will look for it. How does it relate?
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2010
It's just a really good movie about the search for truth, that you might enjoy. There are no hidden booby traps in it.
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Anime-Tenshi22 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2009
The whole "pluck out your eye" bit is a metaphor...
It's not literally saying that if you screw up and lust for someone that's not your wife that you have to stab your eye out...
What the real focus of the verse is "for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell"
It's trying to get people to see the reality of hell and how horrible it is there.

I'm not trying to change your mind on what you believe.
Just sharing a thought.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2009
So you prefer to re-interpret the bible as metaphor? Then how do you know that any of what it says isn't just whatever you decide it is?
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Anime-Tenshi22 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2009
A lot of things in the bible are metaphors and not meant to be taking literally.
(That's not to say that there aren't straightforward things written in the Bible; take the Ten Commandments. Those are not metaphors)
1st Corinthians 12:27 "Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it."
It doesn't literally mean that we are God's body, but we act as his body doing his will.

As for your question, how do you know if you interpretation is correct, well the things is you don't really. That's why there are so many different religions out there.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2009
So, is there anything you don't believe in?
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Anime-Tenshi22 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2009
Well of course, I don't believe in things like magic and fairies, or do you mean things in the Bible?

Is there anything you do believe in?
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mjranum Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2009
Is there anything you do believe in?

If I may make a distinction between "believe" (as in "am convinced by observation and evidence that satisfies me") and "have faith" (as in "hold as true without convincing evidence") I would say that I believe I exist and I believe that there is a universe and a planet that I live on. I believe that other people exist and I have faith that we think similarly and that language is commonly shared and we're able to understand eachother (most of the time). I see evidence that animals "think" too - or, at least, are capable of complex behaviors.

All the rest - right and wrong, god, government, free will, choice - I'm very very unconvinced. Sometimes I think we are able to discuss those topics but other times I'm not - our use of the words is so vague I'm unsure if we can actually share those concepts usefully. For example, I am pretty sure that with your belief structures, we are pretty much incapable of understanding eachother above and beyond very tangible things like "do you like anchovies on your pizza?"

But mostly I assume we're complicated meat robots living in a meaningless universe with strict causality (at our scale) and that all the complicated stuff we do is just emergent behaviors based on mating drives and survival.
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Anime-Tenshi22 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2009
I am pretty sure that with your belief structures, we are pretty much incapable of understanding eachother above and beyond very tangible things like "do you like anchovies on your pizza?"

What makes you think that because someone "has faith" in God means that they can't have a bound with humans beyond tangible things?
Would it not be the opposite?
Someone who demands physical prof in order to "have faith" in it, I would think would have a much harder time believing that they actually like someone simply bassed off a feeling.
After all that's one of the most powerful thing about God, is the feeling of love.
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annubissl Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2009  Hobbyist
look for the photographer with the glass eye and dark shades, u just might find them. my solution is simple, if God didnt want us to watch he wouldn't have made them so damn gorgeous. isnt that the point to making a bautiful work of art? to inspire others by its beauty... aka for others to view in awe. and when it come to a gorgeous lady. who isnt in awe of God's supreme creation?
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MARINEMANTIS3YE Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2009  Student Filmographer
haha i like reading your stuff man
and in most ways i agree with you
after all, it was the human who wrote the bible
not necessarily by God or whomever lol
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Picture-Bandit Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
:lmao:

I would say those rules are actually more like guide lines...
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pioni-sensei Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2008  Student Digital Artist
I'm mainly one-eyed:p
my left eye went down with the "child pocks" or whatever it's called when i was four
so now it doesn't accomodate to the light, and i can only see for like 30% or so with that eye, i can't read anything with it:p
anyhow, this photograph got me thinking, am i a photographer made to be famous? if so, bring on the money:D

cheers
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bt465 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2008
i think it's very simple,
i'm not a christian,
but i know that every action was marked by a thought...
some thoughts are good
and some are just evil!

;)
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niamhsfaeries Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
give me religion and a labotomy

:D

fav line from a Tori Amos song ;0)
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GabrielKain Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2008
The photo and the text made me think of a line from a song. In the song God Shuffled His Feet by the Crash Test Dummies, there's a line "If your eye gets poked out in this life, will it be waiting up in heaven with your wife?" :devilish:
I've yet to get a straight answer out of a religious person for that one.

And a quick story, just for shits and giggles.
I've managed to convert one religious person away from their delusions. The prompt to their revelation into reality was this; If I am a good person, I treat other people well, I give every spare dime I have to charity, I help old ladies across the street, I've saved a puppy from drowning and a child from burning in a fire, I truly wish in my heart that everyone on earth can live in peace, but I happen to believe that god is a toaster, that means I will be damned to fiery torment and pain for eternity after I die?
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2008
"If your eye gets poked out in this life, will it be waiting up in heaven with your wife?"

Mark Twain tried to answer this question in "Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven" - which I highly recommend (you can find free copies on the internet if you search, it's out of copyright) As you'd expect, his answer is hilarious. In fact, he hilariously demolishes the whole idea of heaven.

I've managed to convert one religious person away from their delusions.

Good for you!!!

I have a friend who does something similar. He'll stop and help and give someone a ride and they ask him "can we do anything to thank you?" "Yes - next time you hear someone talking about how atheists can't be moral people, I want you to tell them that an atheist stopped in a snow storm and pulled you out of a ditch" (or whatever) Score!

Thanks for writing!
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GabrielKain Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2008
Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven.. sounds highly entertaining, I'm not surprised it wasn't one of his works they chose to cover in school. ;)

I'll have grab a copy of that and give it a read. :thumbsup:
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CalenthrellII Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2008
I'm Christian and a half-assed photographer. There's a dividing line between tasteful nude photography and straight-up porn.
I'm sure that some would debate in other ways.

In both Religion and Politics you get persons who decide to strictly or loosely follow certain stated rules.

Everyone is different; and stating that all Christians are one way and that all of it is "nonsense" is also no different from some Christians pointing fingers at people stating it's wrong because it's pornography.

I suppose when it comes down to it, it's all in the manner one attacks things ... for better or for worse. :shrug:

Religion and Politics. Bluh.
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2008
stating that all Christians are one way and that all of it is "nonsense"

I wasn't trying to single out christians, or specific kinds of christiantity -- religion, in general, is nonsense. Sorry I wasn't clear about that.
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flytier Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2008
Thank God I'm an atheist!
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mjranum Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2008
Amen! :D
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photodragon Featured By Owner May 7, 2008
Wow, glad I am not christian. hehe :)
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